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« on: August 20, 2017, 02:56:16 PM »

I'm after a little bit of advice, please.

Harvey's boosters are due, but I'm not sure whether to bother this year due to his age and health.

He is 13, has a terminal diagnosis and he's on chemotherapy.  He will probably not be here this time next year.

Does anyone know how long the immunity from disease lasts?  Will he have built up enough immunity from 13 years of innoculations?
Being on chemo means that his immune system is compromised, so he may be more at risk of infection from exposure to disease, but I wonder whether the injections could also have a negative effect.

He leads quite a quiet life these days and although he bumps into other dogs on his walks and in the pub, he no longer goes to dog school and he never goes into kennels.
He is not a fan of the vets, though he does go every three weeks or so to have his eye checked.
I'd like to spare him from as much medical stuff as I can, but I want to do the best for him too.

I thought I could gauge your opinions to add to ours I can then have a more informed chat with the vet.
   
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2017, 04:21:32 PM »

Having been through something similar with Glen, except he did not have chemo, Gareth my vet advised not to give the boosters.  As Harvey has had chemo his immunity will be reduced but look at the lower risk factors too.  He is only going on short walks to familiar places, not travelling about, not going into places where there are large numbers of other dogs such as shows, game fairs, training classes.  Most of the time he is at home in a known environment. 

So I suggest you do what I did and buy a nice piece of steak for your boy from the money not spent on boosters.

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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2017, 05:59:16 PM »

Steak, Enid?   he he
Not sure he will ever deserve steak.   Wink

Your thoughts pretty much echo mine and David's. 

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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2017, 06:40:44 PM »

I second Enid's idea. It's sound advice from someone who has been there.
I know it's what I'll do as / when I reach same point with Monty.
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2017, 07:40:44 PM »

And I 3rd what Enid has said Becky.  We are getting Hollie titer tested this year to see what level her immune system is at.

If I was in your shoes I'd be doing exactly what Enid has said love4
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2017, 07:55:32 PM »

For what its worth, I'm a 4th.

Dear little harveydog, gentle hugs for him - oh and yes, a bit of tasty yummy steak too ... dribble, dribble says Molls x
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2017, 09:10:37 PM »

Another vote to not bother. Half the reason the boosters are annual is to ensure you take your dog once a year for a health check. You are going regularly anyway!
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2017, 09:17:19 PM »

Just adding my voice, same as the others, let Harvey enjoy a treat instead. Hopefully he'll prove medics wrong & keep on going, tho I've only seen him in your pictures,I feel as if I know him well , thru your stories of his exploits,he's a great tonic,  I'm sure I'm not alonein thinking this. Keep on springing Harvey
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2017, 11:22:20 PM »

And we are just sending love and super best wishes for Harvey.
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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2017, 08:15:47 AM »

I agree with all before me.

I'm sure the Man would rather have an extra box of sausages Hug
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2017, 02:50:40 PM »

Becky, I too agree with everyone here.

Rosie and I send love and hugs to her Springer Twin   Hug Hug

Lots of extra treats for our Harvey, our favourite Norti King  love4 and that nice piece of steak  Grin
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2017, 05:05:22 PM »

This nonsense about steak has got to stop!   he he

He's got no room for red meat as he's been snacking on cow pats on our walk this afternoon.

Thank you all for you thoughts.  It's always good when others think the same way you do and has given me the confidence to tell the vet when we see her.

Thank you all for your kind wishes for the old boy.  He is doing really well and you wouldn't know there was anything other than old age going on.  He's still ruling the roost, trying his hardest to get food from the worktops (though his hind legs don't like him doing it) and insisting on being wherever he's not just at the moment you've sat down.   Roll Eyes
We used to be quite disciplined with him but now we often just give in! embarassed



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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2017, 05:21:30 PM »

The normal vaccx in the UK are licensed for a three year effectiveness, except lepto which is annual if you are in a high risk area.  Sorry I forgot in your first post Becky you were asking for how long they were effective.  With chemo the white cell count (immune factors) does go way down so it is better to look at the overall risk situation as I posted earlier.  I don't think any of the standard vaccx are 'live' but any dog can get unwanted side effects from a shot, and even if the lad has not previously had any issues, I would still not put him in the position where a shot might put him under the weather for a few days.

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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2017, 07:07:50 AM »

For the first time we have not had Jess jabbed, like Harvey she is older and our vet said that she will have built up enough immunity specifically if she is only walking in the same (not high risk) areas. Last year she and Monty only had the lepto part of the booster which the vet said should cover her for approx 3 years for our area. I have always had all dogs foster and ours vaccinated but given Jess's health, age and stamina we decided against it.

Harvey - I think you deserve steak!
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2017, 08:09:47 PM »

I can't remember the last time Dino had any jabs. Since his diagnosis in March 2016 we were told that he shouldn't have them. He isn't on chemo just steroids but that is what our vet said.
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